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So...and apologies I've led it a bit OT but all interesting stuff - what is the current best option to come nearer to a CRT on a flat screen for the incredible NG pixel art? So much of what I see on YT (even with decent upscalers) just looks plain wrong. Without the phosphor glow and merging of pixels it all just seems painting by numbers or 'digital' rather than analogue and 'alive'! You know ..just odd/fake/synthetic/crap.
 

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So...and apologies I've led it a bit OT but all interesting stuff - what is the current best option to come nearer to a CRT on a flat screen for the incredible NG pixel art? So much of what I see on YT (even with decent upscalers) just looks plain wrong. Without the phosphor glow and merging of pixels it all just seems painting by numbers or 'digital' rather than analogue and 'alive'! You know ..just odd/fake/synthetic/crap.
My RetroTink 5x was pretty good but for £400 I’d rather have a CRT so I sold it
 

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Love my Pioneer 5090, got a Panasonic 50GT65b in the other room. Love plasma.
I have the same 5090. It's basically the fat version of their last plasma, but with every input connection you can imagine and less processing options (which I turn off anyway). Got it for £300 nearly ten years ago. Superb 1080p image, very good low res, next-frame latency when set to PC Mode.
 
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This is where I get confused - aren’t Plasmas closer to old LCDs than CRTs - digital image, fixed pixels, frame delays.

Anyway, I’d say my 5 year old LG OLED is near perfect - if I could make it last another decade, I would. I don’t get how a Plasma could be better.
With my CRTs, it’s more about the imperfections 🤪 (and a massive 4:3 Rear Projection display)
 

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So...and apologies I've led it a bit OT but all interesting stuff - what is the current best option to come nearer to a CRT on a flat screen for the incredible NG pixel art? So much of what I see on YT (even with decent upscalers) just looks plain wrong. Without the phosphor glow and merging of pixels it all just seems painting by numbers or 'digital' rather than analogue and 'alive'! You know ..just odd/fake/synthetic/crap.
Emulation + shaders IMO, with a good high resolution panel.
 

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Maybe Sega are going the same way soon:
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This is where I get confused - aren’t Plasmas closer to old LCDs than CRTs - digital image, fixed pixels, frame delays.

Anyway, I’d say my 5 year old LG OLED is near perfect - if I could make it last another decade, I would. I don’t get how a Plasma could be better.
With my CRTs, it’s more about the imperfections 🤪 (and a massive 4:3 Rear Projection display)
Yeah, I'd say Plasmas are just somewhere in between CRT and LCD. Good all rounder, vibrant, nice contrast and 240-480p is passable. OLEDs are better but depend on a good scaler, you can plug anything in a plasma and it'll look okay. The panel texture helps.

Always hard to get a number on delay. Response rate is a grey to grey test and has nothing to do with processing delay which is never on a spec sheet. It'd need testing manually. I know my Pioneer is at around 1 frame by videoing while tweaking it to the best settings. It's at around 3 frames with defaults. Guessing many OLED match 1 frame but don't beat it.
 

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This is good reading for me as I've learned a wee bit about plasma TV's that I didn't know, when I bought my 1st pioneer kuro it was only because a local fella worked for a local rental company and said this is the best you are going to get end of you need to buy one and he was right, I've got about 200 hddvd I know Blu-ray won the war but in my eyes hddvd was better and when putting on the warriors or top gun on the pioneer kuro it is a joy to behold.
 
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